Ep 50: Hormonal Harmony: Amanda Ortiz on Kratom and Women's Wellness

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As you can tell, I'm really
passionate about like trying to

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put information out there even
if it's like super tiny and it's

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just my little tiny page of not
tied into kratom only, but just

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in general for women to learn
more about them, their bodies.

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Why we are very hormonal.
It's not like, oh, you're such a

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woman, you're so hormonal.
There's a reason behind it.

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There's science behind it.
I don't know all of it.

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I'm learning it and learning it
as I go.

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But that's the reason why I'm
very, very excited to talk about

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this, because I know that kratom
helps with some of that.

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All right, I'm here today with

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Amanda Ortiz.
I brought her back from Etha

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Botanicals.
We had such an amazing

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conversation.
Amanda, I just feel like there's

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just so much more to talk about
with you, even though that was

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the longest episode I I've ever
done for this podcast.

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When I had you on recently, it
was definitely a record, but I

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felt like we still had so much
more to talk about.

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So I'm really excited today
because we're going to talk

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about kratom and Women's Health,
and I think this is such an

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important topic today.
Yes.

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Honestly I feel like in the last
episode we just touched the tip

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of the iceberg.
There's so much to unravel.

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Honestly, not until I talked to
you really, I didn't realize how

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much knowledge I really have.
Like I've been well trained over

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the years, constantly talking
about kratom, so it comes to me

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naturally.
I talk about it in the store all

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the time.
But I guess I never really

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realized how much knowledge we
do have until we're like, oh, we

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want to talk about this.
Oh, and this.

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And then we kept trying to get
off last time.

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And then we kept going and going
and going.

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Probably would have gone longer,
but you had to leave.

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Yeah, because there's just so
much.

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You have so much knowledge being
that you've been in the kratom

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industry for a long time.
I have a lot of knowledge just

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from being a daily consumer,
from my chronic pain for 5 1/2

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years.
And I talked to a lot of people.

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You talk to a lot of people.
So it's really cool to talk to

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someone who is so incredibly
knowledgeable and we can just

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have these discussions that just
go forever because there's just

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so much to talk about it.
This plant is not a little

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simple plant.
There's so much to it.

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There's so much more, and like I
mentioned in the last podcast,

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the creative community has
evolved so much more than just

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pain management or like opioid
replacement or anything like

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that.
That's how I learned about it

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over the years.
I've just seen it evolved the

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industry, the consumer.
The consumer is way different

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than what it was many, many,
many years ago.

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It's just a lot, a lot of
information.

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But I'm excited for today's
episode because I'm really,

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really, really passionate about
Women's Health.

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As I'm getting older, I'm in
like my mid 30s.

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My birthday will be at the end
of the month, so it'll be over

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the mid 30s.
And as I've gotten older, I've

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kind of doubled or dived in a
little bit more into like

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hormones health because I'm
around the guys.

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We talk about it constantly.
I'm really big on mental health

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because you know, everybody has
a past and their parents were a

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certain way.
Not that my parents were

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horrible or anything.
They did the best they could

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with what they knew.
So it helped me kind of look

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into like why are my parents
this way?

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Why am I this way?
Why is my brother this way?

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And in that curiosity, it's kind
of like snowballed into all of

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this.
And then I'm just in this world

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also and working in Escondido.
I don't know what the difference

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between our Vista store and
Escondido store.

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For some reason we get way more
moms in Escondido, so have a lot

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of customers come in and ask
about like create them during

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pregnancy, create them for
menstrual cycles, menopause.

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A lot of parents want to ask
like, oh, my kids going to

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College in his finals and I
don't want them to take

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Adderall.
What can I take instead?

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Again, I'm not a doctor, I'm not
a professional, so I can't

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really say this will help with
this or this will help with

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that.
However, having that

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conversation with the customer,
getting their experience on how

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they utilize it with their
family or themselves helps me

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help others.
Clearly, I like to talk to

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people.
I like to hear about their

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stories.
I love to hear, go back and

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forth, share and having that
connection that just comes

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naturally, but that's also
helpful because I'm able to hear

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from the person, Hey, this
helped my wife with this or this

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helped my kid with finals or
something.

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Because I, I'm not a wife, I
don't have kids.

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I can't really like relate from
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I can only give you the
experience that I have, but most

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of the time customers don't
really like come to us more for

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mental health, which what I
utilize Kratom for the most.

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And they don't really realize
until they start, we start

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talking and having that
conversation, getting that

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background from them.
Then they're like, oh, you can

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use it for that.
And it's like, yeah, you can use

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it for much a bunch of things.
And that's why I mean, and, and

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also just to be clear and
transparent, I'm going to be

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referencing a lot of ether stuff
because that's the only Kratom

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I've ever taken.
We've tried other Kratom, but I

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mean, why would I want to have
ether, you know?

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So I just don't want it to come
across like I'm just promoting

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ether.
It's just.

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That's all I know.
Understandable, because I you

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know, this podcast is all about
sharing your own personal

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experience.
So totally good with that.

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OK, so yeah, and and that having
Escondido now just celebrated a

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year of being open and I've had
a lot of moms, new moms come ask

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me about predominant pregnancy.
They've gone on Reddit like I

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mentioned the last podcast and
they were really mean to her.

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I was like, this is so weird,
like Kratom does so much more,

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but there's no place for people
to learn about more the more

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other than what it's usually
like seeked for as I I wish I

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could do like a Reddit, but what
first of all, I don't really

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understand that.
I don't really understand

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Twitter.
I'm in that weird in between

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phase where like I just know
Facebook and Instagram and

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usually for me, Facebook is more
like a family oriented and

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Instagram is more like
promotional, personal intimate,

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but then also I know the
advertising side because of the

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business.
It's like, I wish there was a

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place for these women to have
this communication because they

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never cross paths.
And Escondido, it's very rare

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that I'll get like 2 customers,
3 customers at a time.

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Vista will do that and
Escondido's like one and then

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another one.
So I have that time, that

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one-on-one time to spend with
them, which is great, but they

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never cross paths.
So I was like, how can I solve

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that?
And then that's how I created

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the Instagram, Her Plant
Wellness.

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Again, it's very, very, very new
and I'm trying to put more

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effort into it, but I've had
some customers start following

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that page.
They've seen my page.

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And actually fun little story.
Last week we were in Vista and

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we had this lady come in and
she's kind of nervous and Sasha

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and I were there.
Marble was out, so I was

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covering the front and she's
like, hey, I had a friend that

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came basically bought your crate
or whatever.

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I'm a daycare provider.
I have a daycare, but today's my

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day off and I decided to come
because when I was with her the

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other day, I took some, I think
it was our main DA.

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Her friend had history with
substance abuse kind of stuff

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and she utilized Kratom to
overcome that.

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And somehow she found this.
I'm not sure how.

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And she just hasn't stopped
taking ether since she found

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this because she's just a local
tourist area.

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So then there's, you know, two
friends hanging out.

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She's like, Hey, I'm really
tired.

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I'm I just need to, I'm tired of
drinking coffee and all these

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things.
And her friends are here's

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here's a mango, gave her some
mango and she's like, what the

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heck is this?
This is really great.

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And knowing her friend's past,
she was kind of hesitant at

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first, but then once her, you
know, we as we are educating

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others, they're able to educate
their friends and their family.

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So she gave her the spiel too,
like a little brief spiel and

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she's like, OK.
And then I think her friend went

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on vacation or something and she
said, where is this place at to

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go get more creative because I
really want to try it and like,

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I give it a chance.
And she's like, well, I'm out of

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town so you're going to have to
wait till I come back.

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And this is how kratom in
general, not just Ethan, kratom

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in general is like so good is
that she didn't want to wait for

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her friend to come back from
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She started deep diving into
Google, started searching like

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kratom tablets, all these
things.

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One thing led to another.
She found us.

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She went to a store.
She gave us her background

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history and how we know her
friend.

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And she's like, I'm a daycare
provider.

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I have coffee every day.
There's a coffee shop by our

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area that's called a 911 Coffee
because it has like how many?

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I don't even know how many shots
of coffee in it.

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That's about $8.
And then there she takes another

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coffee somewhere else.
I think better buzz.

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But it's something crazy, like a
crazy name like that, like a 911

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coffee.
She's like, I'm tired of taking

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the coffee.
I'm tired of taking the sugar.

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But with the daycare I have kids
from, I think she said two or

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three all the way to 13 and it's
a lot.

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She's like, it's very rare for
me to have a day off like today.

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And I wanted to make it in here
somewhere, another to get more

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information because my friend
gave me the information, but she

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said go in there.
She pretty sickly hyped up

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Maribel because Maribel's the
one that helped her.

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And like, they're very
knowledgeable, they can help

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you, blah, blah.
And usually an interaction with

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the customer takes about maybe
1520 minutes, especially for a

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new one.
That's that's good enough.

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It's enough for them to like
have enough information but not

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hold them hostage unless they
want to keep talking, but not

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holding hostages like, you know,
you just want to keep giving

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more information, but then you
know, they have, they go and

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they come in their lunch, they
come in their break or whatever.

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But she stayed there for almost
an hour.

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We were talking and we were just
exchanging stories.

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And she said that what pulled
her into was she found her

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podcast and she found the
episode with Sasha and myself

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talking about how we utilize
creative for our menstrual

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cycles, cramps, emotions that
come with having a menstrual

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cycle.
And that's what brought her in.

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And now she's an affiliate of
ours.

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So she's like, oh, I'm actually
like, I'm barely taking this

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cradle, but this is an amazing
thing.

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Like I'm going to start telling
all my friends about it.

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And that's the perfect person to
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they believe that it really does
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And they're the kind of person
where it's like, they're not

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going to push it down your
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really works.

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Try it out.
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happen.
And this condito too is like, I

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just have a lot of moms that
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there's not a lot of, there are
some resources for women to seek

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when they're going through
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like acceptance in a sense.
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A lot of times you're like your
mom, you wanted these kids, you

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got to deal with it.
Who cares if they're bugging you

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or whatever.
You brought them into this

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world, so you got to deal with
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And it's not as easy as that.
A lot of people aren't really,

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at least as myself.
I mean, I'm not a mom, but

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talking to my friends and who
are moms, there's not a lot of

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education out there for like
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I think out of all my friends
who have had kids, maybe to have

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admitted to having some kind of
postpartum depression, but they

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keep it to themselves.
And that's fine keeping it to

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yourself, but sometimes people
are uncomfortable.

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A lot of people don't talk about
all the real insurance and outs

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about pregnancy, like how your
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nobody ever just talks about it.
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Marriage troubles too, a lot of
sometimes like women are like,

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why don't the guys understand
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It's because even ourselves, we
don't even know why we're

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feeling this way.
So that's why I delve deep into

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how can I learn about Women's
Health in general.

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Just the tip of the iceberg.
More about my menstrual cycles.

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I don't even know that there was
different phases, Ludio.

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I don't even know all the names.
I'm still learning myself.

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But there's different phases of
your period and that's why it

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deals with a lot with your
hormones where like some weeks

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you're really bloated, sometimes
you're very sensitive, sometimes

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you're just crying over, I don't
know, killing an Ant or

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something.
And you feel like you're crazy

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in your head.
At least that's how I felt.

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It's like, why am I feeling like
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And that's another reason why I
started the my plant Wellness to

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kind of to my research and what
I learned and stuff, kind of

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share it with the world because
I feel like we don't really talk

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about it often.
And the first time this is not

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like overnight passion project.
This has been actually kind of

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sparked when I used to coach
field hockey in high school.

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After I graduated, I became a
field hockey coach here locally

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in a Mesa and I was AJV coach
never coached before.

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I had to coach the girls I used
to play with kind of and it was

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very interesting as well as kind
of like a very a really good

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learning experience.
But having that role, I was kind

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of like a big sister.
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really realizing that girls, as
women, we don't have enough

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education and why we are the way
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But it starts with the younger
generation, you know, when

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you're starting your period and
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Sex education in high school was
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And they don't really dive into
what a period is, how it

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happens.
They should teach you how not to

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get pregnant.
They teach you how to have birth

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control and that stuff.
But it's very, very basic.

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It's not really educational in
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And then when I started
coaching, a lot of girls would

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be like, hey, I can't, I can't
practice because of my period.

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Like, OK, I understand.
And as a coach, I never wanted

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to be that coach where it's
like, well, tough luck.

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You're going to have to do your
thing because you're in your

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period.
I understood that it was OK, you

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get one or two days because I
know some of them, some girls

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would get really, really bad
cramps and others won't.

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And I know the emotions.
But in that time, I realized

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that you know myself, I myself
have always been like, OK, let

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me find out.
So I learned about Planned

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Parenthood, birth control,
contraceptives and odd stuff

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when I was younger, 'cause even
back then, like, what is it?

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I graduated 2006.
I was confident enough in myself

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to like do a Google search and
figure it out on my own.

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But some kids don't have that.
So that was really my first time

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of like realizing, hey, a lot of
people don't know about all

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these things cause the girls
didn't know about birth control,

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how I was available to them
through pen, pant, hood.

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A lot of girls were not
responsible and taking plan B's

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and plan B's are not a bad
option.

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But I don't know if you ever
knew this one fact.

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This is this kind of during to
another way, but like a birth

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control.
Sorry, a Plan B pill for me and

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for my size doesn't work because
it's not made for me.

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A lot of people don't know that.
They don't know that you should

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only be taking I think one or
two a year.

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I think recently I heard some
girls talking at the store.

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They've taken like 5-6 and they
don't realize that that's really

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bad for them because their
knowledge is oh, I'm just take a

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Plan B problem solved.
I'm not going to risk it, but

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really they're risking other
stuff.

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So as you could tell, I'm really
passionate about like trying to

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put information out there, even
if it's like super tiny and it's

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just my little tiny page of not
tied into kratom only, but just

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in general for women to learn
more about them, their bodies.

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Why we are very hormonal.
It's not like, oh, you're such a

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woman.
You're so hormonal.

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There's a reason behind it.
There's science behind it.

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I don't know all of it.
I'm learning it and learning it

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as I go.
But that's the reason why I'm

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very, very excited to talk about
this because I know that

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creative helps with some of
that, Hava can help with some of

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that.
Tomcat Elite can help with some

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of that.
And that's what has what I have

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relatively available to me.
But there are other stuff you

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can do.
Like for instance, I found out

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might be too my, but one period
was really, really heavy to the

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point where like I couldn't
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So I went into Google searched
and found out that blended beets

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with molasses helps kind of
regulate your period a little

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bit so it's not so heavy in the
natural way.

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So that way you don't have to
take like an I don't even know

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what you would take actually.
Actually they said I went to

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Sprouts and they told me iodine
will help.

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I took the iodine drops didn't
help me for nothing.

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So during my period, that heavy
flow period, I took the beets

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with the molasses that help with
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Iron gummies has helped me.
My roots gummies have that's I'm

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really big on my roots stuff
because I know it's good.

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I use the Mary Ruth's
multivitamin for my hair growth

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because I had I'm very stressful
and when I'm really stressed, my

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hair falls out.
You know, you could tell when

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I'm really stressed because when
I brush my hair, a lot of hair

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is in the brush.
So I've been taking the

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multivitamin hair growth Mary
Ruth.

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That really helps.
Also too, I've been taking CMOS.

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CMOS has a lot of minerals and
vitamins and also like a natural

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energies very similar like to
Kratom.

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Cranum obviously helps me
significantly with my hormones.

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Right before my my menstrual
cycle where like I feel like I'm

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crying 'cause I accidentally
stepped on an Ant or something.

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I don't know why that would
upset me, but that helps with

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the hormones.
I'm more of the hormone person.

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I'm more emotional right before
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My cramps can be pretty.
It can be there, but it's not

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nothing crazy.
Sasha has really bad cramps to

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the point that it affects her
legs.

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She has like leg cramps.
She takes sunrise for that.

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I usually stick to sunrise at
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Those are my two favorite ones.
If I am having a really bad crap

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time, which is very rare, I'll
take Ming Don maybe.

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But yeah, I don't know that
answer your question.

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I just kind of went on the
route.

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It really shows how passionate
you are about Women's Health and

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Wellness, which I think is
amazing.

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And when it comes to kratom, we
don't hear a lot of information

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about all of that together.
So for example, on my private

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online community Kratom Real
Talk, which by the way, if our

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listeners have not joined it
yet, it is free Kratom

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realtalk.com.
We've had some Women's Health

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issues come up from time to
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We've had on occasion people
women coming on asking about

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hair loss with kratom and then
also asking about with menstrual

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cycle.
So what's interesting, earlier

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this year we had a lady in the
chat, she was brand new to

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kratom.
She had just started.

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She was young, just started, a
young mother just starting her

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journey.
And she had posted and said this

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is my first cycle while using
kratom since I'm an endo adeno

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warrior.
I think endometriosis is what

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she means a warrior.
The majority of my pain is on my

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cycle.
I'm happy to report that kratom

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significantly helped my pain
this time around, but I'm

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needing to take more and dose
more often, which she said was

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quite interesting.
And I've heard some people say

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that too, that like they notice
when they have their period that

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the normal amount of kratom they
consume doesn't work the same

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way and they have to adjust
their dose.

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Have you heard people talk about
that?

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Well, I just realized I agreed
with you for first for answer, I

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realized I agree with you that
kratom does cause hair loss.

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And my experience myself, maybe
it has because I mean, I can't

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really tell because I'm, I have
hair loss in general.

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So I can't say yes or no, but
maybe I don't know.

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I've never had a customer tell
me that they had hair loss

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because they're taking kratom.
It could be something more

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internal with their hormones and
all these things.

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So I just didn't want people to
associate hair loss with kratom

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because personally I haven't
experienced it.

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I read least directly, I've
taken kratom the last eight

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years and I've battled with my
hair loss.

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And I know a lot of the times
the hair loss is linked to my

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gut health, which is a big
factor to hair loss and my

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hormones and my anxiety and all
that stuff.

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So I just want to clear that up.
And then two, as far as why they

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need to take more when they're
in their cycle, think of this

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once a month your body goes
through the stress, right?

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To me a period I look at it as a
cleansing system or like a self

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cleaning oven thing.
Where you have to have your

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period in order for your body to
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That's how our bodies were
built.

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That's why myself, when I looked
into birth control or anything

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like that, I geared more towards
like a pill or something like a

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traditional pill because to have
a shot stop my period.

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It didn't make sense to me
because I said I need my body to

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self cleanse itself.
But I've never had severe

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periods where I don't want to
have it because it's a horrible

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experience each time.
So for me not having a period,

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is that the way that I wanted to
go versus just having the

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traditional pill so that my body
can clean itself up?

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All right.
I don't know how.

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I think the last year I think
I've had two periods that were

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really bad.
You have to think of your cycle

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is making your body under a lot
of distress.

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You get a lot of hormonal
changes, body changes, you get

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back aches.
I've never given birth, but to

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me those are really the cramps
are pretty strong, but it comes

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with like headache.
Sometimes I'm very sensitive to

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light when I'm on my period.
Your body just goes through this

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like weird thing to extract the
cycle.

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All that right.
So I believe, I mean, in my

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opinion that this is I don't
think it's weird to take more or

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odd because one depends on where
you're getting your kratom if

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you're getting like a
concentrator.

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So I can't speak for any other
brands, but for us, if we take,

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if I take like my midday, for
example, whole leaf Kratom,

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whole leaf kratom is always
going to be more than, at least

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in my experience, 8:00 to 11:50,
14-16 tablets.

447
00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:49,840
Why?
Because it's a whole leaf

448
00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:51,200
kratom.
It's not a concentrate.

449
00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:53,240
There's no additives, there's no
binders or anything.

450
00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:56,000
We as a society, and I think we
talked about this in a podcast

451
00:21:56,000 --> 00:22:00,600
with Alex, we're so used to the
Tylenol method in a sense where

452
00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:04,400
we take one tablet or one
capsule, usually tablet and that

453
00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:09,680
will solve hair quotes, solve
our headache, our back ache, our

454
00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:12,600
knee pain, our shoulder pain,
Black, right?

455
00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:16,760
But The thing is, you take that
one tablet, but then in a couple

456
00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:19,080
hours it comes back and then you
have to take more and then more

457
00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:20,840
and more.
And unfortunately with those

458
00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:24,200
kinds of ibuprofen tunnel, those
like over the counter stuff, a

459
00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:26,640
lot of it, I can't remember if
it's attacks your liver or

460
00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:29,440
kidney or something, but it can
affect your body in different

461
00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:30,960
ways.
So you're solving one problem,

462
00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:34,360
but now you're creating another
one with whole leaf kratum, at

463
00:22:34,360 --> 00:22:39,440
least for us who eat them is
when I do tell you, consumers, I

464
00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:42,600
started with like 6 to 8
tablets, they're like, whoa,

465
00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:44,720
that's a lot.
But you have to think about it.

466
00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:46,680
It's just a leaf.
It's something else.

467
00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:51,080
So anything natural, whether
it's a tea supplement or

468
00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:55,040
anything, you are gonna have to
take more because it's not

469
00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:59,840
enhanced or altered to give you
the fact that you want to,

470
00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:02,440
right?
So when your body is in a

471
00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:06,400
strain, when it's doing the
cramps, when it's muscling, it's

472
00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:09,040
going to be not not your
everyday feeling.

473
00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:11,280
So yes, of course you're going
to have to take more.

474
00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:13,720
It's like, for instance,
sunscreen, you put on your

475
00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:16,280
regular sunscreen day-to-day.
But if I'm going to the beach,

476
00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:18,240
am I going to use the same
amount of sunscreen?

477
00:23:18,360 --> 00:23:20,560
No, Why?
Because I'm going to be in the

478
00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:22,640
direction all day.
So think of it that way.

479
00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:27,680
I think that's normal.
I think that if you had to take

480
00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:30,160
like half a kilo in a day to
deal with your period, OK, then

481
00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:32,640
there's something else wrong.
The kratom's not going to solve

482
00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:34,200
it.
I always have to remind

483
00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:36,680
everybody that kratom is not
your one sub shop is not going

484
00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:39,200
to solve your issues.
You also have to implement good

485
00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:41,040
food.
You have to implement moving

486
00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:45,080
your body to me, when I move my
body when I'm on my period, the

487
00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:48,560
cramps are way better and I I
don't feel as tight and then

488
00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:53,040
also finding food that helps
your period.

489
00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:55,280
So like for instance, like I
said, the beats in the molasses

490
00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:56,840
Hulk.
Also the iron.

491
00:23:56,840 --> 00:24:00,160
Try to find iron through food
while you're on your period so

492
00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:03,360
that you're not just supporting
your menstrual cycle year period

493
00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:05,880
with just a kratom.
Or just tease.

494
00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:09,280
You're actually working from the
inside out, not just the

495
00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:10,800
surface, if that makes any
sense.

496
00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:13,160
That makes perfect sense.
I mean, it's your overall

497
00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:16,080
health, you know, not just
relying on one.

498
00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:18,280
I'm a bit older.
When I was younger, it was all

499
00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:20,080
about my doll.
You take your my doll.

500
00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:21,880
Oh yeah, my when?
You have your periods.

501
00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:24,400
That was that was a huge deal
back in the day.

502
00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:26,080
What worked right for me was a
leave.

503
00:24:26,360 --> 00:24:30,560
A leave always helped me
tremendously back in those days.

504
00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:34,280
You know, I had another
interesting post that was on my

505
00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:37,400
Kratom Real Talk forum earlier
this year as well.

506
00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:40,880
And it was from one of our
members who's a big kratom

507
00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:43,040
advocate.
And she said that her and a

508
00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:47,880
doctor did a survey on kratom
and its effectiveness during the

509
00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:51,840
menstrual cycle of women.
She said 98% of women experience

510
00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:56,240
a decrease in the effectiveness
of kratom either the week of

511
00:24:56,480 --> 00:25:00,440
their cycle or a couple days
prior, including the week of.

512
00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:03,240
And she said said it was a
survey of over 300 women, but

513
00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:05,960
nothing was ever written up.
They never, it was never

514
00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:07,000
published.
It was.

515
00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:09,840
And the survey really wasn't
very complete.

516
00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:14,000
But interesting to have her say
that it was that many people

517
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:19,360
they surveyed.
And 98% said yeah you know it is

518
00:25:19,360 --> 00:25:22,760
less effective, meaning they
probably would need to take more

519
00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:26,400
like you were saying or take it
more often would make perfect

520
00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:29,120
sense.
Yeah, like I said, thankfully I

521
00:25:29,120 --> 00:25:33,600
don't have a really bad period.
I would think that I don't think

522
00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:37,440
it's, I wouldn't see it as an
odd thing that right before,

523
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:40,680
because I believe right before
your period is when your body's

524
00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:42,600
preparing to pretty much release
the egg, right.

525
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:48,000
So that's when I feel, I hate to
say crazy, but that's at what

526
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:51,400
time I feel the craziest where
like I have all these cravings.

527
00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:55,000
Sometimes I hop between spicy
food, sweet and salty.

528
00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:58,120
I'll crave random stuff that I
don't normally eat in a

529
00:25:58,120 --> 00:26:00,560
day-to-day.
Also my emotions are more

530
00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:04,480
sensitive and then a body body
wise too like your body is just

531
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:07,200
more sensitive to certain
things, smells too.

532
00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:10,760
So like I mean I think even if
it wasn't published I would

533
00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:13,640
understand it and agree with it
because me as a woman I go

534
00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:15,760
through those things.
So of course I'm going to use a

535
00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:18,240
little bit more.
Maybe I'll do like midday and

536
00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:22,600
sunrise more often.
But I mean, I wouldn't disagree

537
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:23,760
with it.
Yeah.

538
00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:26,480
It makes sense to me.
I think what would be really

539
00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:30,600
smart for any woman that they're
noticing a difference in their

540
00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:33,840
kratom routine when they they're
having a period, whether it's

541
00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:37,320
the week before, the during or
the after, is to keep a journal

542
00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:41,080
and keep track every time you
have your cycle.

543
00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:44,240
And if you're noticing you're
taking more, write that down.

544
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:47,000
If you notice you're taking more
often, like right all, then

545
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:50,800
start over months of this, you
could really go in and pinpoint

546
00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:54,920
and probably figure out, OK, the
week before I'm noticing I got

547
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:59,240
to take a little a few more
grams and I need to take it one

548
00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:02,760
extra time more than I like.
Instead of maybe two doses a day

549
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:04,560
a person takes, they need to do
3.

550
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:07,960
Like that's the best way to
figure it out is keep a journal.

551
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:11,080
So if, if, let's say
hypothetically, I had a really

552
00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:15,240
bad cycle before or the bad week
before my cycle, what I would do

553
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:17,960
is take my regular midday
because midday is my perfect one

554
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:20,000
where I don't have pain.
So I don't need really much

555
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:22,160
support in that, at least right
before my period.

556
00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:26,320
I'll need more like the mental
mental support, like the focus,

557
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:30,080
the anxiety relief.
And then I would probably take

558
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:34,840
sunrise with it because it's,
it's more like a pain reliever,

559
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:37,640
but it also gives me the energy.
I don't know about you, but when

560
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:41,400
I have my period of my other
really bad fatigue, I'm really

561
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:44,000
tired.
I come home, I kind of like

562
00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:46,800
literally fall asleep on my bed
before I even do my nighttime

563
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:49,360
routine or anything.
I'm just more exhausted.

564
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:52,320
So the day's more draining, the
day feels longer.

565
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:55,440
So sunrise is where that will
give me that little pick me up

566
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:57,480
during the day.
And then nighttime I don't have

567
00:27:57,480 --> 00:27:59,560
problems sleeping because I'm
tired.

568
00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:02,000
So yeah.
Can you, you know, I know some

569
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:04,560
of our listeners don't even know
what sunrise and may I those,

570
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:06,880
these are two products you're
talking about that you have an

571
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:09,960
ether sunrise at midday and
these are blends.

572
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:13,360
Can you explain the difference
because a few people have asked

573
00:28:13,360 --> 00:28:17,400
me about it and they weren't
sure like what exactly is what.

574
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:20,280
So tell us like sunrise and the
difference between that and

575
00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:23,160
midday.
So sunrise is a mixture.

576
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:26,240
So just to give a little bit of
context to where blends and

577
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:29,440
stuff is, our blends are
basically pure veins mixed

578
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:33,040
together based on the acolyte
profile when they come in, like

579
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:35,920
we take lab tests.
So everything that comes in gets

580
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:39,840
in quarantine, then they get
samples out so they can go send

581
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:42,680
it to testing and none of that
stuff is touched until testing

582
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:45,760
comes back once it's cleared
from some now like all that

583
00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:50,080
regular stuff, heavy metals, the
guys, Alex really, he looks at

584
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:52,000
the acolyte profile for each
batch.

585
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:55,480
And then based on that profile,
he basically makes like a blend,

586
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:58,760
a recipe for this batch.
This is going to be sunrise, a

587
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:01,520
mixture of our mainly white and
green with a little bit of red.

588
00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:04,920
But based on that profile, it
determines how much red and how

589
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:07,440
much green and white.
So that's why we can always

590
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:11,200
guarantee that gauge never the
exact same thing because as a

591
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:13,640
natural thing, it shouldn't be
the exact same thing every time.

592
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:16,960
It should vary.
It should vary between 1:00 and

593
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:20,240
2:00, you know, and that's what
our blends are very basic

594
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:23,960
description.
And then our sunrise, very

595
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:28,200
popular online is primarily a
white and green with a dash of

596
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:29,960
red.
So it's going to give you that

597
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:34,640
or it should give you that pain
relief, the energy with a little

598
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:38,080
bit of the relaxation.
Because I don't know if a lot of

599
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:41,000
people know our Reds are true
Reds in our definition.

600
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:45,360
When they do describe what our
our veins are to new consumers

601
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:48,160
is an acronym that kind of helps
them visualize.

602
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:50,200
I'm a visual learner.
I'm an audio learner.

603
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:52,840
So if I read something, I don't
get it right away, but if I hear

604
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:55,600
it, I understand it.
So for me, I tell them red is

605
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:59,000
bad, Yellow's mellow white and
green is go basic, right?

606
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:00,560
And then they're like, OK, I
kind of get it now.

607
00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:05,000
So as I'm explaining, when I
mean true Reds is our Reds are

608
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:08,680
going to consist of very low
mitrajnine, higher special gene

609
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:12,960
and pen Anthony, which do help
with muscle relaxation, tension

610
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:16,120
release primarily.
But I believe in a couple

611
00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:20,200
episodes ago, I can't remember
which one that it can or May 1.

612
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:24,320
I can't remember which alkaloid
may help with like mood boosting

613
00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:25,840
too.
I just can't remember the name

614
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:27,840
of it.
So I have to look it up and ask

615
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:30,280
Alex because he's he's like,
there's not a lot of research on

616
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:33,160
it yet, but there has been
mentions of it.

617
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:34,680
I think McCurdy probably started
it.

618
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:36,960
I don't know, but yeah.
So that's what our true Reds

619
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:38,920
are.
So when we want you, when we

620
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:41,720
think of Reds as red bed
relaxing, we don't want you to

621
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:43,400
be energized.
Like if you were to take mangdar

622
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:45,400
or white or green that is high
in Metrogenite.

623
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:49,280
We want your body to relax.
So sunrise is really good for

624
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:53,600
just overall, like if you like
to have the pain relief protocol

625
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:56,960
or feel like you have the pain
relief but then not be too

626
00:30:56,960 --> 00:31:00,840
relaxed, sunrise is perfect.
Like for me or for like Alex,

627
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,320
he's a perfect example.
Sunset is the opposite of

628
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:06,120
sunrise, right?
So sunset is primarily red with

629
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:09,200
a little bit of white and green.
The complete opposite is kind of

630
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:12,440
like a yin and Yang.
And for him, the sunset works

631
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:14,640
great because his muscles are
tightened.

632
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:17,240
His his hips and his back
muscles are tightened during the

633
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:19,840
day.
So the sunset when he takes it,

634
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:23,320
it relaxes those muscles so that
he's able to be loose enough to

635
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:26,000
work during the day.
But his body agrees with it

636
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,760
because he still can function.
He still could do what he's

637
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,400
doing and all these things.
And then also too, we mentioned

638
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:35,280
in another episode and another
podcast was he was hammering

639
00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:37,440
actually the episode we just
launched this last week.

640
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:41,320
I just remembered he has these
projects he has in Big Bear and

641
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:42,720
he had sunset in his system,
right?

642
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:45,240
So he was doing carpentry work
and he accidentally hammered his

643
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:47,360
hand.
And because he had sunset in his

644
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:50,600
system, obviously hammering your
hand is going to hurt a lot, but

645
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:52,880
it wasn't as bad as if he wasn't
taking creative.

646
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:55,720
So that's kind of another visual
for you guys to understand.

647
00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:58,440
And it didn't swell up either.
I mean, he did, but not as much

648
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:00,360
as it would have if he would
have not had creative in his

649
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:02,680
system.
So that's what true Reds are for

650
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:05,160
us.
White and green to us is more

651
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:08,600
like higher MIT, so if you're
looking for something that's

652
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:12,920
going to be more energizing pain
relief, then you would hit lean

653
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:15,920
towards more sunrise.
If you don't want anything of

654
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:19,360
red, then you do Ming Dao, which
is just white or green for me

655
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:21,440
and Victor were very similar.
We're like sunset.

656
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:25,000
We can't take sunset during the
day because we're so sensitive

657
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,320
to the red that we'll be too
relaxed and we don't like the

658
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:29,440
feeling.
So that's why we gravitate

659
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:32,480
towards sunrise if we are
struggling with like energy or

660
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:34,680
we're having some kind of
headache or something, because

661
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:39,000
sunrise gives us that relief, a
little bit of relaxation so that

662
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:42,440
our body can relax, but not
enough that we can't really like

663
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:44,560
enjoy the day.
I don't know if that answers

664
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:46,800
your question for Sunrise.
Well, it's interesting because

665
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:50,320
y'all have a lot, while y'all
have the green vein, the white

666
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:52,920
vein, the red vein that you can
get individually.

667
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:54,320
You also have a lot of different
blends.

668
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:57,360
But I do want to let the
listeners know the plant still

669
00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:00,800
effects everybody differently.
So for example, one of my

670
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:03,120
friends, the white, will put her
to sleep.

671
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:07,200
You rarely hear that.
But a few people, not just her,

672
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:10,240
but a few people have told me
they're the opposite, that red

673
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:12,480
gives them energy and wipers
them to sleep.

674
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:13,800
I'm like, well, that's
interesting it.

675
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:16,040
Could just be the way your
body's built, honestly.

676
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:18,920
So like everything that we say
has to be with the grain of salt

677
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:22,880
because you can't really base
your decision off of your

678
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:25,800
experience, like my experience
compared to yours, so that the

679
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:29,800
friend of yours, because
everybody's body's built

680
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:33,000
different.
OK, So that's why we're really

681
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:36,240
big on giving samples.
I know online it's more like

682
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:38,480
centers and sunset because
that's kind of like your first

683
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:41,520
like experience.
That's summers and sunset are

684
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:43,280
good starters.
And then once you figure out

685
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:45,760
which one you like more than you
can base your decision on other

686
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:48,280
ones in the store.
We encourage, like I, I

687
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:50,440
mentioned in the last episode, I
don't push people to buy.

688
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:52,800
I give them the education so
that they can have enough

689
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:54,680
information to make an informed
decision.

690
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:57,560
I go through each blend and see
what piques their interest, like

691
00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:00,080
what made their ear pop like,
oh, this might help me.

692
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:03,000
And then we give samples and I
say, take these home, take them

693
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:04,840
on a day that you're not doing
anything because you don't know

694
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:07,920
how your body's going to react
on the weekend, see how it goes.

695
00:34:08,199 --> 00:34:11,239
Take, take however you feel
comfortable with, wait 10-15

696
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:13,840
minutes, see how you feel,
evaluate your body, but don't

697
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:17,040
sit there and wait for it to
work because a lot of it is you

698
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:19,719
just have to go about your day
and you won't even notice.

699
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:22,199
Like, you know, when you take
coffee, as soon as you take like

700
00:34:22,199 --> 00:34:26,400
a, a quad shot at Starbucks,
which is four shots of espresso,

701
00:34:26,639 --> 00:34:28,840
boom, you feel like, Oh my God,
I can do anything that I'm

702
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:30,679
cleaning, I'm deep cleaning up,
I'm doing yard work.

703
00:34:30,679 --> 00:34:33,239
I have the kids and then I don't
know where you just crash,

704
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:36,440
right?
With kratom, you don't feel that

705
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:40,280
like rocket energy.
You feel it subtly, or at least

706
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:41,520
for me.
No, it is.

707
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:44,280
It's with me and so many people
I've talked to.

708
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:46,760
I think that's one of the best
things about kratom because

709
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:48,880
you're right.
You take like a big shot of

710
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:51,600
caffeine.
You're jolted back when I was in

711
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:54,600
pain management for nine years.
You take those, those opioids,

712
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:58,000
it hits you like it can take a
while, but then it hit, you know

713
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:01,080
when it hits.
And with kratom, with Kratom for

714
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:04,320
me, since day one, it's like
it's subtle.

715
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:08,000
I'll be like 1520 minutes later
doing something, I'm like, oh

716
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:09,400
wow, my back pain just went
away.

717
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:13,000
Like it went away, but not with
me even noticing.

718
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:16,480
Like it, you know, it's, it's so
subtle and I love that.

719
00:35:16,720 --> 00:35:19,280
And that's the feedback I get a
lot with people who are trying

720
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:23,240
to use kratom instead of the
opioids is that they don't like

721
00:35:23,240 --> 00:35:26,720
the opioids because one, the way
they feel the side effects and

722
00:35:26,720 --> 00:35:28,840
all adverse events, all these
side effects, side effects, all

723
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:31,440
these things.
But the biggest thing is like

724
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:35,120
even I think it also has to do
as you age as well, because I

725
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:37,000
bake on the side like like my
hobby thing.

726
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:40,320
And when I do my best baking at
night time and when everybody's

727
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:43,000
asleep, it's just like in my
zone, my music and I usually

728
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:45,520
have an energy drink because I
want to take kratom.

729
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:49,320
I want a short bolt of energy.
I don't want to have to take

730
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:52,520
kratom and then be up a 10 hours
and if I'm only going to bake

731
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:55,040
for a couple hours, right.
So I used to take I used to

732
00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:58,400
drink Aulani energy drinks.
Those are my favorite take sugar

733
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:00,520
free, blah, blah.
And they're the flavors are

734
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:02,200
unique.
And then it was just like a nice

735
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:06,520
little drink, you know, while I
bake the other day I took 1 and

736
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:12,080
I felt so sensitive to it.
I felt like I was taking 4-4 or

737
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:15,120
eight quad shots or two quad
shots, making eight shots of

738
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:17,360
espresso.
I said I cannot drink this

739
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:19,160
anymore.
I don't know what happened in my

740
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:21,360
biology.
The zycon, I don't remember the

741
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:23,720
last time I took it.
But you also have to be aware of

742
00:36:23,720 --> 00:36:24,880
that.
Listen to your body.

743
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:26,280
Listen to what your body's
telling you.

744
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:30,000
Your body does such a good job
of telling you how it feels,

745
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:33,760
whether it's feeling nauseous,
sensitivity to light, your body

746
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:36,080
aches, anything like that.
That's the one thing you have to

747
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:39,120
learn before you take anything,
not just kratom, anything new

748
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:41,360
even like for example, skin
care.

749
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:43,640
You could be taking you who can
have the same skin care routine

750
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:46,880
for 10 years and one day you
decide to add an extra cream and

751
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:49,120
then out of nowhere your face
starts breaking out.

752
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:52,560
You just have to be able to
understand how your body works

753
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:55,680
and how it how it expresses to
you that it's not feeling

754
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:58,680
comfortable.
And as far as my experience,

755
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:03,440
I've never had that that like,
oh, this is not working for me.

756
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:07,000
Aside from any kratom that has
really high mint versus like

757
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:10,480
Magda Daybreak for me is the no
but slim fit.

758
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:13,560
Yes, slim fit works really well
for my coffee replacement, which

759
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:16,840
is Magna that has our widened
grain with matcha green tea.

760
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:20,520
I mentioned in the last podcast,
I'm not about concentrate.

761
00:37:20,720 --> 00:37:22,400
Concentrates are way too strong
for me.

762
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:25,160
I'm very sensitive.
But the one that I can do and

763
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:27,720
it's comfortable is the the
creative mint, the regular

764
00:37:27,720 --> 00:37:29,440
creative mint.
Creative mint is actually, I'm

765
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:31,320
going to go to Disneyland today.
And so I'm going to take one of

766
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:33,240
those before I get on the road
so I don't fall asleep.

767
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:36,320
But the Creative Mint is good
for me for days like that where

768
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:39,520
I'm going to Disneyland or I'm
taking my nephew out or

769
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:42,600
whatever, anything that it's out
of the everyday day-to-day

770
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:44,200
routine.
I forgot your question.

771
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:48,560
Oh no, this is just, no, I just
love, this is just so awesome,

772
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:50,640
Amanda.
And it always goes back to, I

773
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:53,240
feel like we can talk about
these things all day.

774
00:37:53,240 --> 00:37:57,080
There's just so many.
But as we start wrapping up, are

775
00:37:57,080 --> 00:38:00,520
there any other questions that
people come into the store and

776
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:03,000
ask you about when it comes to
Women's Health?

777
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:07,120
Women so speaking more like the
menstrual cycle Alex has

778
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:09,760
mentioned that are sentiments,
which is the concentrative

779
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:13,040
kratom, which is a hymant
primarily and then the Kava

780
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:16,880
helps with Mesa cramps for me.
I tried it, but honestly I don't

781
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:19,480
have really bad cramps for it to
feel in effect.

782
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:22,440
I believe Sasha did feel because
she has the leg cramps that

783
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:24,520
helps her.
I haven't really had any

784
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:27,520
feedback on that as far as other
women I know they tried it, but

785
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:30,000
I mean I don't talk to everybody
and then the one that I've been

786
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:32,720
actually trying to do is Tonkat
Ali.

787
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:36,720
So Tonkat Ali is not kratom.
It's a another botanical that

788
00:38:36,720 --> 00:38:39,920
it's tongue cattle leaves a name
or I can't even do.

789
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:41,760
This is that the name of the
plant?

790
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:44,240
Because it's a plant, right?
It's a root.

791
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:46,480
It's the root of the plant.
It's not the actual plant.

792
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:50,400
So it's known as tongue cat, but
Ruby suroshi or something like

793
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:53,840
that is the sensitivity name,
but it's basically the root of

794
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:55,400
the plant.
What we do is the same thing.

795
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:59,920
We compress it into a tablet and
usually it's known for like for

796
00:38:59,920 --> 00:39:02,360
men to help with their
testosterone levels go up.

797
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:07,600
But fun fact is when we're going
through our cycle, our menstrual

798
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:10,120
cycle, our testosterone levels
are really high.

799
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:13,320
So we don't need that, right?
Any and the rest of the month is

800
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:15,880
where our testosterone levels,
even as women, we do need some

801
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:17,880
like well, at least what I've
been told in a might have been

802
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:21,280
read is we do need some kind of
testosterone ourselves, but it

803
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:23,280
could be very low compared to
other stuff.

804
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:26,480
Right.
I was telling Alex that I've

805
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:29,480
only it takes a while.
First of all, for tomcat, or we

806
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:33,080
call it revitalize online.
I revitalize to really take into

807
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:34,800
effect.
It's not as fast as kratom.

808
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:37,880
So one be patient with it
because it's not like an instant

809
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:39,880
reaction.
It has to be in your system for

810
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:44,320
a while to use to feel effect.
So I can restore your energy

811
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:46,800
too.
It can be used as a pre workout

812
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:49,880
kind of thing.
A lot of butt muscle bodybuilder

813
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:53,240
guys use it to help with their
hormone levels as well.

814
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:58,560
Women have used it for their pre
and menopausal issues that they

815
00:39:58,560 --> 00:39:59,840
have.
That's a conversation for

816
00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:00,400
another day.
What?

817
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:04,640
About if you're in menopause
does Tom Catali is yeah, because

818
00:40:04,720 --> 00:40:08,080
helpful with that.
I'm not really I wouldn't say an

819
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:11,000
expert, but haven't really
delved into menopause really.

820
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:14,080
OK, I'm still trying to
understand the cycle 1st and

821
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:16,760
then gravitate toward graduate
to the metro.

822
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:19,400
However, I do have experience
with my mom and let me tell you,

823
00:40:19,720 --> 00:40:24,120
kratom has been a lifesaver
because just as as our bodies go

824
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:26,640
through all these things during
our cycle, once you go in

825
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:29,480
through menopause, it goes so
kind of similar.

826
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:32,440
Being on the receiving end of
that is very interesting.

827
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:35,720
So my mom really, really likes
sunrise to deal with her

828
00:40:35,720 --> 00:40:39,160
menopausal stuff and midday
sunrise and midday at top tier

829
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:41,520
in my household.
And I'm trying to get her to

830
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:43,880
TikTok out of leave, but you
know, she's a kid.

831
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:46,680
I have to like keep reminding
her she's not really good at

832
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:49,240
taking a but she will take her
cradle without having to be

833
00:40:49,240 --> 00:40:50,840
told.
So that says a lot in itself.

834
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:53,280
So, and maybe that's a
conversation we have another day

835
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:57,200
because I'm not that informed on
it or that well educated on it.

836
00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:01,880
It would be interesting to learn
more about kratom with with the

837
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:05,120
pre menopause was that
perimenopause and then in

838
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:08,960
menopause it would be
interesting to learn more about

839
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:11,440
that.
But the Tomcat Alley y'all did a

840
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:14,240
podcast episode where y'all
talked about it and I found it

841
00:41:14,240 --> 00:41:16,080
so interesting and it made me
want to try it.

842
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:17,760
I haven't yet but I probably
will.

843
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:21,920
But I'll link to that in the
show notes because that you'll

844
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:24,240
have an episode on that and an
episode on Women's Health.

845
00:41:24,240 --> 00:41:25,920
Y'all did last year.
That was really good.

846
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:28,480
I'm going to definitely link up
to that because, you know, if

847
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:30,960
people listening to this have
not listened to your podcast

848
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:34,960
live fully with kratom, they
really should because y'all,

849
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:36,800
y'all do an amazing weekly
podcast.

850
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:38,600
You'll share so much
information.

851
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:40,560
I love it.
Yeah, I'm actually surprised

852
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:43,560
that the lady last week came in
because of this podcast session

853
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:46,240
I did about Women's Health.
And then actually based on

854
00:41:46,240 --> 00:41:48,720
numbers on the views and
listens, clicks and all that,

855
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:52,040
the Tom Cataly one whenever we
talk about Tom revitalize is

856
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:54,760
what we call it Aditha.
It does really good because

857
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:57,720
again, there's not a lot of
education and our hormones and

858
00:41:57,720 --> 00:42:00,560
our bodies and stuff like that.
We've kind of been like, do

859
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:03,560
this, this and this to prevent a
pregnancy or to not get a girl

860
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:06,440
pregnant or use a pattern temp
on because you have to do with

861
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:08,640
your period.
Take the my dollar Tylenol, but

862
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:11,720
nothing more than that.
So people are curious, very

863
00:42:11,720 --> 00:42:13,960
curious feature.
So when we find something new

864
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:16,880
and TikTok is a great way to
learn as well as you know,

865
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:19,840
you've shared a lot of
information, but there's a lot

866
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:21,880
of information that we just
don't know about yet.

867
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:23,720
So that's why another reason I'm
passionate about it.

868
00:42:23,720 --> 00:42:26,280
But going back to Tomcat,
though, the way that I'm going

869
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:30,040
to be utilizing it or have been
the last month or so, but I

870
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:32,480
haven't been consistent.
That's my own fault is kind of

871
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:35,600
treating it like a birth control
pill where during my period I'm

872
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:39,240
not going to take it because
something about you have to like

873
00:42:39,240 --> 00:42:42,200
three weeks on, one week off for
some reason, I'm assuming

874
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:44,400
because of hormone balance.
And I was like, oh, OK, well I'm

875
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:45,840
just going to use it like a
birth control.

876
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:48,000
The week that I'm on my period,
I'm not taking it because I

877
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:50,600
don't need testosterone support
because my levels are really

878
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:52,680
high in that time.
And then the other three weeks

879
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:54,680
of the month I'll take it.
So that's how I'm going to be

880
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:56,480
taking it.
I always thought it was about

881
00:42:56,480 --> 00:43:00,920
two tablets was what I had to
take, but Alex said no, you

882
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:02,800
could take like four.
And then I am a little bit

883
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:06,240
bigger, so I might take 4/6 so
that I can feel the difference.

884
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:08,320
I don't think we have it in
powder form anymore.

885
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:10,400
Definitely in tablets, but don't
take it in powder.

886
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:12,240
One time the guys called my
blood.

887
00:43:12,240 --> 00:43:14,320
I mean, the Alex, I was like,
why don't you just take the

888
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:16,120
powder?
Because we were out of tablets

889
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:17,600
for a little bit.
We just didn't have room in

890
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:20,280
production to make more.
So all they had was powder and

891
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:23,080
that and the the guys use it.
Alex is the victories that the

892
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:25,400
production guys use it.
Actually one of the production

893
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:27,760
guys, Kevin, we did a podcast
with him too and he talked about

894
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:32,200
how he uses it and he's like a
big, big guy, big Muslim guy.

895
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:36,000
So he does a lot of weight
lifting and he called my bluff.

896
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:37,400
He's like, oh, you want to try
the powder?

897
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:40,520
I'm going to make you tea.
Oh my goodness, that was the

898
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:44,960
nastiest tea ever.
So thank goodness we have

899
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:46,600
tablets.
I mean, but I'm very spoiled

900
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:48,160
too.
I've never had kratom powder or

901
00:43:48,240 --> 00:43:50,480
I have, but like I don't have to
utilize kratom powder.

902
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:53,600
I can use use the tablets but.
Y'all's tablets are amazing.

903
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:56,880
I'm telling you for anybody new
to create like if I had known

904
00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:59,680
y'all about your company and
tablets when I started my

905
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:02,720
journey in 2016, I would have
just done tablets because that

906
00:44:02,720 --> 00:44:05,320
first time I drink that kratom
tea, I was like, whoa, this

907
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:07,360
tastes bad.
It takes a while to get used to

908
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:10,520
that taste and you have to like
put other things in in it to

909
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:13,880
mask the the taste of it.
But tablets are just but you

910
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:16,360
know what somebody said to me
recently, probably a tick tock

911
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:19,320
comment.
They said it still tastes like I

912
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:21,760
did that it still tastes bad.
Well, I'm not telling anybody to

913
00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:24,640
just leave it on your tongue
like it's a tablet.

914
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:29,440
Take it like you take a pill.
And when I use use them and, and

915
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:35,040
for my usual powder dough's, I
do 12 of the ether tablets and

916
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:38,560
you know, I do like 3 or 4 at a
time and I don't taste it

917
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:41,120
because I'm popping them in
drinking water, washing it down.

918
00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:43,960
And I mean, I don't want to just
sit in my mouth because then it

919
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:47,320
would taste gross.
Honestly, I have AI have a

920
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:49,880
couple customers that they like
to chew on the tablets for some

921
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:50,720
reason.
Really interesting.

922
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:52,600
I was like, well, why don't you
just take powder?

923
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:55,760
And they said because it's it's
like the chewing of the like

924
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:58,600
destructing the tablet in their
mouth is what they like and the

925
00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:00,640
powder, you can't really chew it
because it's so fine.

926
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:03,200
We call it like nano powder.
Who knows what we call it now,

927
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:05,960
but but it the powder that we
have, at least from what I've

928
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:09,480
seen others, we we triple quote
whatever, filter it through

929
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:13,360
these machines and the powder is
kind of like almost like baby

930
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:15,600
powder consistency, or should it
be at least?

931
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:21,240
But the reason we filter it or
sift it so much is because when

932
00:45:21,240 --> 00:45:23,200
you make your tea, there's
things like plant fibers in

933
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:24,920
there, right?
So I mean, you don't want like

934
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:29,120
chunky plant fibers in there.
So we try to sift it enough so

935
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:31,920
that when you do do your tea in
the powder form, at least it's a

936
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:34,680
little bit smoother and it's not
as chunky as it would if we did

937
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:36,520
it.
I think it's called nano grind.

938
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:38,520
It called nano grind.
I've heard that.

939
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:41,560
Nano.
Powder I've heard that term in

940
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:46,200
the industry nano so it's like a
ground more like baby powder

941
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:49,280
yeah, I know y'all's kratom.
I really love it.

942
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:52,560
I use y'all's grain and it's
just, it is very, very fine,

943
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:55,440
like baby powder and I love and
then tablet.

944
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:57,880
And then for those that don't
know y'all's tablets, they have

945
00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:00,040
no fillers.
You could take one of your ether

946
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:03,800
tablets, crush it in your hand
or chop it up in your kitchen.

947
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:07,160
It is the powder.
It's the powder you can also buy

948
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:10,240
through your company is like,
it's just no fillers.

949
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:12,200
And yeah, so which I think is
super.

950
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:14,080
No fillers, no binders, no
additives.

951
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:16,800
It's literally I think 5 to 10
tons of pressure.

952
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:18,760
Could be wrong.
I don't do the tablets myself

953
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:21,280
but.
I remember I asked when I had,

954
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:24,320
you know, I had episode with,
with Victor, I had one with Alex

955
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:27,200
and Victor went into great
detail here on Kramer Stories

956
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:31,600
podcast about how Alex created
the tablets and, and yeah, the

957
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:34,000
pressure and stuff to to with
the mold.

958
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:36,720
And so it's fascinating.
I'll definitely link to that in

959
00:46:36,720 --> 00:46:38,920
the show notes too, because if
anybody has not heard that

960
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:41,400
episode, it's fascinating.
It's fascinating to listen to

961
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:43,840
Alex because he talks about so
much with the science.

962
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:45,640
Oh my God, he's amazing with
that.

963
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:49,320
He's actually, we were just
told, I don't know, this is like

964
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:51,880
a pre thing, but he's going to
be entered in the Hall of Fame

965
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:53,280
for the AKA, so that's kind of
cool.

966
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:56,600
That I saw that and I am too.
Me and my kratom gals we.

967
00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:59,800
Are nice.
One of our kratom gals, Misty

968
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:02,240
Brown, already got induction
first round.

969
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:05,080
Thank you.
But this new second round, yeah,

970
00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:10,040
I saw Alex's name and then me
and the other two kratom gals.

971
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:12,160
It's like, whoa, that's really
cool.

972
00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:16,160
And it's really nice having our
consumer lobbying group that

973
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:20,480
really appreciates those of us
that advocate and businesses

974
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:23,720
like like yours, you know, that
that works so hard in the

975
00:47:23,720 --> 00:47:26,680
community to help educate people
and advocate for the plant.

976
00:47:26,720 --> 00:47:28,960
It's amazing.
That's honestly like what we

977
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:31,640
want to do is just like, there's
so much misinformation.

978
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:34,640
I'm so glad that people are so
much open to it.

979
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:38,800
And now that like, OK, creative
is good, at least general public

980
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:41,080
feels like it now.
It's not as scary as before when

981
00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:43,920
we first started.
Now other doors are opening like

982
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:46,040
the Women's Health.
And I mean, I don't have a lot

983
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:48,440
of experience obviously in men's
health because I'm not a guy.

984
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:52,040
But hopefully one day I'll be
able to delve into that and then

985
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:54,360
help men too.
Because unfortunately, a lot of

986
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:59,880
the times men are forgotten and
people don't realize that men do

987
00:47:59,880 --> 00:48:03,600
struggle themselves as like a
provider, as a husband, as a

988
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:06,960
partner at work, All the stress
that they're under too.

989
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:09,560
And even with myself, I'm still
learning also.

990
00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:12,560
But as my dad has gotten older,
he's more of a traditional guy

991
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:15,800
and he's gone through a bunch of
stuff and we always put guys and

992
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:18,400
he's like even my brother too.
Like we put these guys on the

993
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:23,320
pedestal to be the strong
people, providers, all these

994
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:24,960
things.
And we forget that they have

995
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:26,680
feelings too.
They have struggles.

996
00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:30,000
They have struggles within
themselves, like I'm not doing

997
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:32,240
enough for my family.
I'm not providing enough, all

998
00:48:32,240 --> 00:48:33,880
these things.
And sometimes we forget.

999
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:37,200
Like I saw a quote the other day
where it said men don't get

1000
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:40,160
their first bouquet of flowers
until they're not no longer with

1001
00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:41,800
us anymore.
And that hit me hard.

1002
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:43,360
I was like, wow, I never
realized that.

1003
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:45,720
Like, I don't think I've ever
gotten my dad's flowers.

1004
00:48:45,720 --> 00:48:48,000
And that makes sense because I
always make sure my mom has

1005
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:50,760
some, but I never thought, oh,
my dad might want some, you

1006
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:53,160
know?
So even now, like my friend, my

1007
00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:55,760
best friend's birthday was a
couple weeks ago and she shares

1008
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:58,840
her birthday with her son.
So I usually give her a bouquet

1009
00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:01,040
of flowers and I made sure you
Trader Joe's gives you like a

1010
00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:03,080
little kid 1.
So I made sure to buy him a

1011
00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:05,280
little bouquet of flowers so
that he would feel special too.

1012
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:07,680
And then that goes into cycle
breaking.

1013
00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:09,080
And also that's another
conversation.

1014
00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:12,080
I'm really big on that too.
But it's totally one day I can

1015
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:14,960
get delve into the guy, the guy
side of things, but I don't know

1016
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:17,880
it enough to understand like
what they really go through.

1017
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:20,520
And it's going to be hard
because a lot of guys aren't

1018
00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:24,040
really that open to admit that
they are going through stuff.

1019
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:27,040
And just gotta remind if you
have a partner or a husband and

1020
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:29,520
a boyfriend or whatever, it
just, you know, OK, yeah, we're

1021
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:32,280
going through our hormonal
issues as women, but imagine

1022
00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:34,120
being on the receiving end of
that, right?

1023
00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:37,200
And what we're putting in them
there, you know, OK, have our

1024
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:39,600
time and and be our little crazy
cells.

1025
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:42,840
But then after the the storm's
over, you know, appreciate your

1026
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:45,600
person, your partner in life,
your husband, whoever, your

1027
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:47,960
brother, even your cousin,
whoever's there to support you

1028
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:50,400
during those times.
Just remember about them because

1029
00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:52,920
just as much as you're going
through something, they're on

1030
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:54,720
the receiving end.
And sometimes it's not the best

1031
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:57,560
on that side.
So that's that's the goal

1032
00:49:57,560 --> 00:49:59,960
eventually, but we'll see how
how so we'll get there.

1033
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:03,560
Well, as always, I mean, this is
such a great conversation.

1034
00:50:03,720 --> 00:50:05,960
I feel like we're just
scratching the surface yet

1035
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:07,680
again.
But I think Women's Health such

1036
00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:11,280
an important topic and we'll
definitely have you come back on

1037
00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:14,400
with some other topics.
You talk to so many people with

1038
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:17,400
the stores with through the
customer service work you do and

1039
00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:20,440
the long number of years you've
been in the industry.

1040
00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:22,960
You know so much.
And for our listeners, if they

1041
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:26,520
have any topics they want Amanda
to come on and talk about, you

1042
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:29,280
know, reach outlet me know if
you have a specific question for

1043
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:31,480
Amanda, you know, we'll
definitely have our back on

1044
00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:35,240
again and to closeout.
Let's be sure to have people go

1045
00:50:35,240 --> 00:50:37,840
check out your Instagram that
you were talking about earlier.

1046
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:41,040
Your her plant Wellness is that
can they like?

1047
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:43,360
Is that a good place for them to
actually connect with you?

1048
00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:46,440
Like to DM you there?
They can connect with me there.

1049
00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:49,480
Just like I mentioned the last
podcast too is I don't have the

1050
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:53,560
e-mail linked to the page.
So one day maybe I might have to

1051
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:56,800
make a new one.
But I am gonna make an e-mail

1052
00:50:56,800 --> 00:50:59,440
just in case If you guys want to
e-mail like a Google e-mail or

1053
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:02,040
something just to get
information really for you guys,

1054
00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:05,240
because I think this is a good
outlet for me to get to your

1055
00:51:05,240 --> 00:51:07,240
guy, to you guys.
If you can't make it into a

1056
00:51:07,240 --> 00:51:09,880
store, if you don't get us
online and e-mail, I mean, of

1057
00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:12,320
course, you could always e-mail
support our Ether naturals and

1058
00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:14,800
we're more than happy to give
you a call or whatever.

1059
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:18,120
But if you want to meet
specifically, which you all want

1060
00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:20,920
because you're listening to me
now, I'll come up with an e-mail

1061
00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:22,480
and then I'll give it to
Madeline to put in the

1062
00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:24,320
description.
And then we can do that and

1063
00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:26,960
maybe use those questions in
future episodes.

1064
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:28,800
And then you can help you guys
out.

1065
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:31,040
And I mean, they can reach out
to you and get those questions

1066
00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:32,000
to you too.
For me.

1067
00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:34,360
That's OK.
Yeah, they they can definitely

1068
00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:36,800
message on that page.
That would be great.

1069
00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:38,720
I have access to it.
I'll let you guys know when I

1070
00:51:38,720 --> 00:51:40,600
don't.
But yeah, they can reach out

1071
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:43,000
there.
And then before we close, I did

1072
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:44,760
look up like these hotlines for
women.

1073
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:46,880
So if you are struggling with
stuff, this is some common

1074
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:49,680
information that I found.
This is substance Abuse and

1075
00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:51,560
Mental Health Services
Administration.

1076
00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:56,600
So it's short term is Sam Hassa.
They have a hotline for that

1077
00:51:56,600 --> 00:52:00,760
where you do one, 806, six, two
help, which is translates to

1078
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:03,680
4357.
They're available 24/7.

1079
00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:06,280
Their website, I'll give you the
information to link the website

1080
00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:08,480
and their Instagram so you can
reach out to them.

1081
00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:11,280
And then another one that was
really popular that I found when

1082
00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:14,840
I did a little research is the
Postpartum Support

1083
00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:18,800
International, which is, I guess
is an organization that helps

1084
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:23,120
women with postpartum stuff.
I again, I feel like that

1085
00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:26,080
conversation needs to be had.
I think we've gone long enough

1086
00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:29,320
not having those uncomfortable
conversations that it's time for

1087
00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:31,920
us to have them because a lot of
women struggle with it and

1088
00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:34,400
sometimes it doesn't end up good
for them or their families or

1089
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:36,240
their children.
So I think that that's really

1090
00:52:36,240 --> 00:52:39,600
important for us to talk about.
And then their number is

1091
00:52:39,720 --> 00:52:44,200
1-800-944-4773.
They have an English and Spanish

1092
00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:45,840
one.
I'll give it to you to, to link

1093
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:48,160
if you'd like.
They have tech support, text

1094
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:49,920
support as well, which is
interesting.

1095
00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:51,800
I never heard of that.
But some people are more

1096
00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:53,560
comfortable texting than calling
people.

1097
00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:55,240
So that's great.
And then I'll give you the

1098
00:52:55,240 --> 00:52:57,320
website and the Instagram too.
But I just wanted to put out

1099
00:52:57,320 --> 00:52:59,560
there in case you are struggling
with something.

1100
00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:02,520
I know a lot of like, like one
of somebody that I know that

1101
00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:05,760
just had a baby suit recently.
I always make sure to ask about

1102
00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:07,200
her postpartum.
How are you feeling?

1103
00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:09,640
Kind of.
Breastfeeding is a crazy thing

1104
00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:11,520
in itself, and it's very
mentally draining.

1105
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:13,160
It's a good job.
It's just like, yeah, I'm

1106
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striking a little bit.
So I just make sure that, like,

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OK, give me your baby story,
your birth, blah, blah.

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But then how are you doing?
Because sometimes once the

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baby's here, we forget about the
mom, too.

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It's all about the mom while
she's pregnant because, you

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know, you want to have the
beautiful baby.

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You have the baby.
And it's almost kind of like the

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mom is the afterthought.
So I want to break that kind of

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narrative as well.
So, and then yesterday actually

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was National Mental Health
Awareness Day or something like

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that.
So we did a little post for that

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as well.
So it's kind of cool, good

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timing that we're having this
conversation today.

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Yes, definitely, definitely.
I'm so glad we had this

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conversation.
This is this is great.

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So thank you so much for
spending time.

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I'll put links to all of this in
the show notes so people can get

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access to it, and we will
definitely come back and chat

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more soon.
Yes, can't wait.

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Thank you.
Thank you for listening.

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